Got some wild responses to this by email and on Twitter. One person told me that it's not true the herbivores overgrazing that changed the routes of rivers, but logging, as described by the late great Victo Schauberger, so perhaps that takes some of the drama out of my argument. A coupe; people were really upset about the wolves being reintroduced and hunting Elk apparently for sport, leaving them to rot. Now this is interesting, I'm not sure what the truth is, but to speculate I would begin by saying that jusrt because we find something distasteful in Nature doesn't mean it's bad, there might be a good reason for this behaviour, eg the buzzards need to eat too. But it's possible that there used to be a larger predatory land animal in the past that was hnted to extinction. by humans, which kept the wolves in check and didn't make sport of Elk. And after it was gone, its possible the American Indians stewarded the land with more wisdom than we do, and perhaps they kept the wolves in check. Or something. But the broader point of the article stands regardless, which is that we have to respoect every ecosystem and be very careful to interfere, because we indirectly depend on those ecosystems for our own society - so if widespread 5G decimates the insects at the bottom of the food chain, that could destroy the whole food chain. We should especially give our bodies and microbiome the benefit of the doubt rather than indiscriminately altering things we don't fully compreehend.
Thanks for reminding me of the garlic for toothache trick. I`ve been brushing my teeth with baking soda for the past 2 years. Never felt better!
Regarding nature, the often hated mosquito, bringer of mosquitoe born illnesses may be a savior from the replicon vaccine, which I learned was based on the mosquito borne alpha virus.
People who get a lot of natural mosquito bites are more likely to have antibodies against alpha viruses, and at higher levels if they get bit often.
So when the self replicating vaccines start being pushed like they are here in Japan, people with alpha virus antibodies might be able to neutralize the replicon vaccines before they get into cells and start multiplying.
Fascinating. Someone recently commented that mosquitos bite you in certain areas for a reason, maybe something to do with biophotons that they sense. It's always amusing when one person outdoors is getting eaten alive and another is being ignored by the mosquitos. I;ve seen this many times. Always wondered what it was.
We are all connected . But the overlords do not want us to see that. Division and misguided information has always been the goal since the beginning of time. Some can see, some cannot see. Humanity is in for one crazy trip over next few years. God help us, if we're worthy.
The trees being eaten by herbivores didnt cause the butterfly effect, logging did. Victor shauberger’s book living water covers this clearly, also how to move logs great distances without machines, using cold water. How sunlight touching water will make a spring stop flowing completely until it is shaded once again. Im also partial because Im involved with farming here out west and we are dealing with the reintroduction of a non native species of protected canadian timber wolves here in Oregon. These wolf packs are dangerous to humans and livestock. We have had a local woman whomwas out for an evening jog surrounded and she climbed a tree and used her cell phone to call for help. These animals werent just killed because of livestock they kill humans. If you think pittbulls are mean youve never met a timber wolf 🐺. Im a dog lover and pittbull owner myself and dont agree with destroying wildlife to extinction but for humans and wolves to co habitat its not very easy when they pose a threat to humans. Not just a small one either. Encountering them at night in a pack will certainly require the human to be armed especially if they are hungry or have pups. These animals are huge often standing as tall as a grown mans chest when full grown as tall or taller as a man when on their hind legs. 6.6 feet long .. When you see one they bring about a feeling that you wont forget thats for sure. They can hit speeds of 37 mph and their packs can be as many as 24 some have seen bigger. A fellow farmer has ID’d a pack of 19 nearby and only two had federal tracking collars. At a weight of 140+ lbs these animals eat a lot of meat and are a formidable foe vs humans and they can cost a farmer 10’s of thousands of dollars in livestock in a single month. These advocates for bringing back the wolves are same people trying to have pittbulls exterminated. Boy are they in for a surprise…
I have to read Schauberger, I keep hearing about his contributions to understanding water. I wasn;t aware of the logging angle, but that could make sense if they didn't spare the trees on the riverbanks. The broader point I was trying to make is that if you remove the apex predator in an ecosystem there will be negative effects for that ecosystem, that's unavoidable. Maybe you can mitigate them by culling the animals they would have preyed upon in the same way they did - ie killing off the weakest and sickest of the herds. And of course I agree with you that humans are mroe important than wolves. We just need to be wary of destroying the environment that sustains us with short sighted policies. I'm not an environmentalist crackpot, and have nothing against CO2, but I do think we should carefully consider how to structure societies and incentives so that we walk as gently as possible on the face of the earth while prioritizing our own flourishing.
Science is a constant striving to get closer and closer to the ground truth. Every generation makes contributions that will eventually be found to be incorrect at some level and will give way to more correct understandings, but we only would have reached those by standing on the shoulders of the giants of the past to paraphrase Newton.
Got some wild responses to this by email and on Twitter. One person told me that it's not true the herbivores overgrazing that changed the routes of rivers, but logging, as described by the late great Victo Schauberger, so perhaps that takes some of the drama out of my argument. A coupe; people were really upset about the wolves being reintroduced and hunting Elk apparently for sport, leaving them to rot. Now this is interesting, I'm not sure what the truth is, but to speculate I would begin by saying that jusrt because we find something distasteful in Nature doesn't mean it's bad, there might be a good reason for this behaviour, eg the buzzards need to eat too. But it's possible that there used to be a larger predatory land animal in the past that was hnted to extinction. by humans, which kept the wolves in check and didn't make sport of Elk. And after it was gone, its possible the American Indians stewarded the land with more wisdom than we do, and perhaps they kept the wolves in check. Or something. But the broader point of the article stands regardless, which is that we have to respoect every ecosystem and be very careful to interfere, because we indirectly depend on those ecosystems for our own society - so if widespread 5G decimates the insects at the bottom of the food chain, that could destroy the whole food chain. We should especially give our bodies and microbiome the benefit of the doubt rather than indiscriminately altering things we don't fully compreehend.
Thanks for reminding me of the garlic for toothache trick. I`ve been brushing my teeth with baking soda for the past 2 years. Never felt better!
Regarding nature, the often hated mosquito, bringer of mosquitoe born illnesses may be a savior from the replicon vaccine, which I learned was based on the mosquito borne alpha virus.
People who get a lot of natural mosquito bites are more likely to have antibodies against alpha viruses, and at higher levels if they get bit often.
So when the self replicating vaccines start being pushed like they are here in Japan, people with alpha virus antibodies might be able to neutralize the replicon vaccines before they get into cells and start multiplying.
Throw out that mosquitoe repellant!
Fascinating. Someone recently commented that mosquitos bite you in certain areas for a reason, maybe something to do with biophotons that they sense. It's always amusing when one person outdoors is getting eaten alive and another is being ignored by the mosquitos. I;ve seen this many times. Always wondered what it was.
We are all connected . But the overlords do not want us to see that. Division and misguided information has always been the goal since the beginning of time. Some can see, some cannot see. Humanity is in for one crazy trip over next few years. God help us, if we're worthy.
All about balance, mind body spirit and …. That microbiome 😉. Thanks Dr. Haider , enjoyed your essay .🤗
The trees being eaten by herbivores didnt cause the butterfly effect, logging did. Victor shauberger’s book living water covers this clearly, also how to move logs great distances without machines, using cold water. How sunlight touching water will make a spring stop flowing completely until it is shaded once again. Im also partial because Im involved with farming here out west and we are dealing with the reintroduction of a non native species of protected canadian timber wolves here in Oregon. These wolf packs are dangerous to humans and livestock. We have had a local woman whomwas out for an evening jog surrounded and she climbed a tree and used her cell phone to call for help. These animals werent just killed because of livestock they kill humans. If you think pittbulls are mean youve never met a timber wolf 🐺. Im a dog lover and pittbull owner myself and dont agree with destroying wildlife to extinction but for humans and wolves to co habitat its not very easy when they pose a threat to humans. Not just a small one either. Encountering them at night in a pack will certainly require the human to be armed especially if they are hungry or have pups. These animals are huge often standing as tall as a grown mans chest when full grown as tall or taller as a man when on their hind legs. 6.6 feet long .. When you see one they bring about a feeling that you wont forget thats for sure. They can hit speeds of 37 mph and their packs can be as many as 24 some have seen bigger. A fellow farmer has ID’d a pack of 19 nearby and only two had federal tracking collars. At a weight of 140+ lbs these animals eat a lot of meat and are a formidable foe vs humans and they can cost a farmer 10’s of thousands of dollars in livestock in a single month. These advocates for bringing back the wolves are same people trying to have pittbulls exterminated. Boy are they in for a surprise…
I have to read Schauberger, I keep hearing about his contributions to understanding water. I wasn;t aware of the logging angle, but that could make sense if they didn't spare the trees on the riverbanks. The broader point I was trying to make is that if you remove the apex predator in an ecosystem there will be negative effects for that ecosystem, that's unavoidable. Maybe you can mitigate them by culling the animals they would have preyed upon in the same way they did - ie killing off the weakest and sickest of the herds. And of course I agree with you that humans are mroe important than wolves. We just need to be wary of destroying the environment that sustains us with short sighted policies. I'm not an environmentalist crackpot, and have nothing against CO2, but I do think we should carefully consider how to structure societies and incentives so that we walk as gently as possible on the face of the earth while prioritizing our own flourishing.
Trail cam footage of the pack of 19 was published in the local paper…
not disputing what you said but you left out the part that long before warren and Marshall got the nobel prize they were Pariahs!
Science is a constant striving to get closer and closer to the ground truth. Every generation makes contributions that will eventually be found to be incorrect at some level and will give way to more correct understandings, but we only would have reached those by standing on the shoulders of the giants of the past to paraphrase Newton.